.
spoken .
interview
for NEW EMPIRE.
march 2000
NE:
i want to avoid the boring question "who are you?" and better
ask: "what world are you born into? what kind of life did you
face when you woke up after birth?"
GB: i faced confusion, war, happiness, industrial, madness,
pressure, love, hate .. so many things but after all i can say
that the world is too complex to be understood. but i´m trying
as far i can .. " it´s a giant thought"
NE:
how does this world influence your music? where are the ideas
of your music coming from? from external or internal inspirations?
can music be a completely internal thing?
GB:
sounds are everywhere! the influences for my audio sculptures
are coming from everywhere; the internal and external inspirations
are just one of so many perspectives. basicly i´m a syncronisator
of all the things i´m facing on this planet. this sound is part
of my subjective perspective of the environment in which i´m
living.
NE: who should listen to your music and why?
GB:
everyone who supports the underground movement which is independent
and real or better said, which is part of the real world without
filters ans masks or materialistic "commercial" motivations.
at last for people which are open for communication and development.
NE: "elements" contains 4 lps and in western tradition there
are four elements. do you refer to those elements? is there
a special meaning behind every of the 4 lps? which is it ?
GB:
no! this is just a coincidence.
NE: your sound is often cold and somehow angry. is it an accusation?
GB: yes!
NE: one question about major malfunction. it contains a track
called battle youth. this cought my attraction. what is a battle
youth? a youth born into a battle? or the battle of the youth?
please explain this song to me.
GB:
battle youth is the soundtrack, inspirated by the youth, which
is programmed to behave like warriors of the post industrial
world. i´ve seen so many of them little soldiers ready to fight
for materialistic advantages for more and more and more and
more .. and this is not enough. this track is the retrospective
of the smell the produce.
NE: in which relationship stand the music and the layout of
your covers? the new lps feature a triangular symbol. will this
be your new logo? what does it stand for? how do you select
the motives for the covers?
GB:
the three parts of the triangular symbol are standing for mind,
body and environment and should demonstrate the harmonic relationship
between those factors. this symbol will be a active part of
the common graphic designs.
NE: how do you feel before and after the release of a record?
what do you think about concerning this release?
GB:
since the cooperation with maurizio blanco and boris may from
the mhz label concept, ther was a new paltform opened which
along the way brings to me a new volume of potentialities. so
i can be concentrated on my own perspective of work. this mental
freefall allows me to form audio sculptures with my own original
syntax. elements is the result of a vision i´ve had and a personal
electronic script created by using automated technology. the
sense and view about this album is also a personal view of the
other people from the scene. the point is that we like electronic
music from the progressive underground.
respects,
goran besov
interview
for
RE:MOTE
INDUCTION. may 2000
After
a couple of pieces Goran Besov joined the German label Mega
Hertz - first with a track on their compilation and then with
the LP Major Malfunction. After the success of this LP, tracks
from which could be seen cropping up on DJ lists, Goran followed
it up with the 2 LP release Elements. Following our review of
this piece of work we spoke to Goran.
Re:mote
Induction : Your second LP on Megahertz - Elements is a double
LP - 20 tracks across four sides. Could you tell us something
behind the ideas that shaped this work and if there is any structure
behind the positioning of the tracks across the sides?
Goran:
Elements follows Major Malfunction as a compilation of different
tracks from various times. After publishing Major Malfunction
we (MHz) decided to produce an album, by working first with
the title chronos vs. chaos, but after that we came to Elements.
So I've recorded the work of eight months, which includes high
and low levels of quality, this whole output was the elements
archive at first. From the "most chronological" I
took the best and the most important tracks together as an organized
program, which stands for experimental audio activity. The rest
of them were deleted.
Re:mote
Induction : Looking at your discography it would appear that
Elements is your fourth LP - when was each LP recorded and how
has your sound changed over the releases and was there a much
greater time spent to produce 20 tracks for Elements than time
spent on other releases?
Goran:
The Story Becomes, Major Malfunction and the black hole project
(which is a dj tool) are all excerpt from my personal library.
The first tracks I recorded in 1991, together with Savas Pascalidis.
So the difference between those three records and Elements is
automatically the one that Elements was scheduled from its beginning.
Elements is the greatest spectrum / volume of output that I
ever did, the size of it was unexpected for all of us.
Re:mote
Induction : Certainly comparing Major Malfunction and Elements
there is a marked change - how would you describe the sound
you were going for with each of these releases? Was the change
an evolution for you or a deliberate jump? As a reviewer I find
that categories can be restrictive and at times misleading -
so while I might describe your work (particularly Major Malfunction)
as being "techno" influenced someone who listens to
"techno" might not see that at all - what do you make
of categories and the way they are applied to you and your work?
Goran:
Basically there is the fascination about the electronic platform
"which is revolutionary." Then the expression of everything
we see, smell or feeling and mental material, in other words:
everything in our environment or so called life can be reconstructed
and remodelled into electronic audio activity. For example:
during the consuming of talk shows "consciously" and
listening to the perfect TV concept I feel like "media
termination" and then with this impression I am going on
to record the result after using electronic equipment. so the
sound is in most of the cases my personal view on the environment
I'm living in. This sound must change because this is the natural
process of independent development, I feel in me. Fact is, that
everything I did until now is a result of the techno movement.
I'm a part of this, very
subjective but technoid in every category.
Re:mote
Induction : Both your Megahertz releases have had somewhat "classical"
art on the sleeves - these are striking - how do you feel they
fit in with the sound of Goran Besov? Do either of the sleeves
have particular reference to the albums? Also with Elements
you have adopted a new symbol - how does the classical imagery
fit with your electronic sound compared to the more minimal
symbol, which to me seems entirely appropriate?
Goran:
The Major Malfunction cover shows a man which was used by Leonardo
for medical studies. So this unknown element of this case was
interesting for me. Who was he? How old? Name in a register?
Nothing. So we were thinking that this man had to be reanimated
in some way. By printing his face on the ep - the same happens
with the Elements cover nobody can imagine the face of this
warrior. This unknown something is also in my sound and in me
at last. There are so many things happening around me and I
don't know why. The triangular symbol stands for unity between
mind body and environment and it is my personal symbol from
old days.
Re:mote
Induction : How did you come into contact with Megahertz and
how did that lead to the release of your last 2 LPs with them?
Goran:
Maurizio was going to the same music shop as me, so we heard
each others ideas and motivations and we knew that some day
something would happen. This was 1989, I think, then later he
formed with Boris the "klangstabil project" (1994)
which was for me the first real electronic band in the radius
of South-Germany.
Re:mote
Induction : You produced a track for the Alpha cassette compilation,
which is also where the PAL track Dream And Bliss came from.
What sort of track was They and what about Dream And Bliss attracted
you enough to cover it? Have you ever done any other covers
or are there others you would like to do?
Goran:
They can be seen as a Major Malfunction track taken from my
personal library. The Dream And Bliss Mix was a spontaneous
act. I like the track and PAL's output. Currently I'm working
on remixes of klangstabil's performance piece called krieg (war)
. I saw the performance in Stuttgart at the Kuenstlerhaus, it
was extreme and perfect in its purest energy. I'm trying now
to concentrate on what I witnessed that day in a track, by using
Klangstabil samples. Other mixes? We'll see!
Re:mote
Induction : As I said earlier Elements seems to be your fourth
LP - could you tell us something about your earlier releases
- The Story Becomes (on wild traxx) and Black Hole Project a
split with Savas Pascalidis (on shokoy)?
Goran:
The Black Hole thing is a "dj tool" with Savas Pascalidis
who is a friend of mine, but he is a traditional dj (techno
scene). He was an active part of the implementation of techno
in Stuttgart. But always in the background doing his own thing.
Now - he runs successful his on own label called Lasergun. But
my music is more the experimental perspective and there are
our "barricades".
Re:mote
Induction : As you produce more music how does your attitude
and method change? Do your influences shift or do you find that
with more experience you are better able to express your intentions?
With Elements you have one track which features vocals by Melina
Besov - is this something we are likely to see more of, and
to what degree do other people have input in your work?
Goran:
Everybody and everything is welcome. The track with Melina Besov
was also a spontaneous thing. I think that there will be more
things in this direction in the future everything is possible.
This is also a fascinating part of electronic platforms, everything
can happen! I'm searching and recording.
Re:mote
Induction : Listening to both Major Malfunction and Elements
there are various samples - taken together it would seem that
you are using them for particular reasons - what place does
sampling have in your work and how do the words suggest your
meaning?
Goran:
The sampler is the central act in this thing supported by drum
machines and synthesizers. He is god given, for me. The samples
I use are mental links to my personal experience most of them
are taken from movies. I've been collecting samples since 1992
and my library is always present during the programming of a
track.
Re:mote
Induction : With Elements being your longest release to date,
perhaps even becoming intimidating with its scale how do you
follow it? Do you have any idea of what you will do next musically?
Goran:
I'm standing on a "zero point" at the moment - I have
no idea. The relationship between Elements and my work at all
is very complicated now, because I feel an emptiness like a
gun that has already fired all its bullets. One is sure, there
will be no continuing story - I must find a new concept. Elements
is the synchronisation of a current situation - maybe an audio
analysis of our society. The next step can be the question about
the future, maybe titles like "how shall the new environment
be programmed" will be the leading stimulus for further
recordings. I don't know
everything is possible, this
is the greatest motivation to work with and on Megahertz.
Re:mote
Induction : Thanks for taking the time to answer our questions
and we wish you the best of luck with your work - do you have
any comments that you would like to add as conclusion?
Goran:
Yes I would, I would like to say thanks to everyone who supported
us and to everyone who realizes music as something important
and of course to the whole "underground movement"
- respect!
goran
besov 26.05.2000
interview
for MUTE! magazine. september 2000
1.
alright, for the readers, how did it all beginn?
it
began in 1991, when i bought my first sampler. at first there
was a "research and development" phase in which i
discovered some perspectives of the immense neverending audio-sample
spectrum. i took samples from movies other tracks or sample
libraries and later step by step i have completed the "black
hole" with futher electronic parts like drum machines,
synthesizers and effects. but the sinister urge to express myself,
in some way was always there before, it is now completed with
the electronic medium.
2.
in five words or less, describe goran besov musically.
a
very sensible observer, consumer, worker or part of the industrialized
and norm society which is reproducing "in experimental
style "the collected various information as audio tracks.
3.
how did you meet up with MHz?
i
met maurizio blanco in a shop for electronic equipment from
this moment on there was a third mind which holds us together.
we know that the same voice was speaking to us.
4.
can you tell us about your new lp, "elements"?
at
first i must say that elements was a very heavy and complicated
birth. this album is not ment to entertain somebody in classical
sense, it is an audio script which describes current circumstances,
feelings and emotions in a unorthodox experimental way. elements
was an act of self destruction its fruits are bitter and sweet
in same time.
5.
how would you describe the evolution behind your music? from
"the story becomes" to "major malfunction"
to "elements"?
"the
story becomes" is really the beginning of this thing but
this ep has in some way this techno aspect. "major malfunction"
is the indicator for "elements", this second ep is
an excerpt from my archive at that time. the idea behind m.m.
was to release an ep which contains sick music for special moments
in what ever. "elements" is going further in me it
is the total independence and stands for something own.
6.
has signing to MHz helped in this evolution?
there
are no contracts between us. this evolution is coming from inside
and burns automatically in a neverending process. our relationship
is based on friendship and on our love to electronic sound.
but of course! it is great when somebody has the interest to
publish your music in the way you want, it gives more energy,
for sure.
7.
what leads to the choosing of artwork on your covers? the leonardo
man on "major malfunction", the masked warrior, the
split triangle?
the
triangle is my personal logo which stands for the unity between
mind body and environment. the leonardo man is a man which was
used by leonardo for anatomic studies. nobody knows who he was
and nobody cares about him anyway. everyone sees leonardo in
him, but i see the man himself this unknown man which is reanimated
in some way with m.m. this known-unknown thing was also the
link to the sound. the unknown fighter on "elements"stands
for the unknown man which is building and destroying. he is
unknown, the work and the process in which he is involved are
the most important things like the sound on "elements".
the building of constructions and the immediate destroying of
them are some of the basic methods in creating the sound of
this album.
8.
can you give us one last thougt on electronic music today?
everthing
is electronic and can be reproduced, remodelled and exploited,
objective or subjective perspectives can be used for club purpose
or psychoanalysis. it needs a small evident will, which is not
everyone ready to make, to explore those audio worlds and systems,
we as explorers of electronic sound must and can go further.
goran
besov
12.09.2000